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Looks like you’re gonna have a pile of people interested in this!
crispyfishsticks replied to your post: “I’m a little disappointed with the zoo med UTH… Especially the medium…”:No, sadly…Are you using a thermostat? All heat sources should be on one. THG heat tape & a hydrofarm thermostat destroys zoo med stuff any day.
Gah I’m sorry but huge red flag here. If you’re going to own reptiles, you need to use thermostats, bottom line. >_<
For all the noobs out there, thermostats are not optional. Most of the hideous burns you see pictures of are because someone didn’t use a thermostat. I don’t know how anyone can research any snake and not take away “THERMOSTATS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND WITHOUT ONE YOUR REPTILE WILL PROBABLY DIE.”
Please please have a way of regulating your temperatures. I don’t care if your UTH claims to stay within safe temperatures, it won’t. It just won’t.
I admire Crispy for being so calm about this but I’m internally screaming and screaming and screaming.
That said, I’m grateful the OP is willing to go out and get thermostats. Way to go, OP!
We’ve all been there before, we’ve all made our own mistakes as new keepers just starting to figure things out. Sometimes people just need a gentle reminder. So long as sound advice is given, and taken, and implemented (as it will be in this case), there shouldn’t be cause for concern.
crispyfishsticks replied to your post: “I’m a little disappointed with the zoo med UTH… Especially the medium…”:No, sadly this is something I have learned today (yay learning!) I’ve been looking at thermostats, I’m having an..odd time trying to understand exactly how they work though?Are you using a thermostat? All heat sources should be on one. THG heat tape & a hydrofarm thermostat destroys zoo med stuff any day.I’ll probably have to switch to the THG Heat tape ( not probably, I am most likely going to, especially with the possibility of three BPs coming in).How do the thermostats work with the THG?
They work by measuring and regulating the temperature of the hot spot. I wouldn’t trust any heat source without one, even the little zoo meds (you just never know, and it’s not worth the risk to the animal imo). Here’s Cherry Coke’s quarantine tub. It’s sparse & sized for a 4’ animal. Hides on the hot & cold sides, water bowl, and a humidity monitor she pushed into one of her boxes:
I typically set up my tubs with a piece of THG adhered to the outside of the bottom on one side with aluminum tape. The thermostat probe is taped to the inside on the hot spot so it can measure the heat.
If you go through RBI, you can buy a 12”, 6”, or 4” strip of THG - whatever fits your tub. Make sure to also buy a wire/clip/insulator kit and ask them to assemble it in the comments unless you want to put everything together when it arrives.
I get mine pre-assembled so it’s plug and play when it ships in. The heat tape plugs into the thermostat, I set the thermostat to the desired holding temp, and then tape the thermostat probe to the hot spot inside the tub because I’m looking to regulate the spot where the snake is going to sit and not necessarily the heat tape itself… which will have to heat more or less depending on ambient room temps/enclosure material/substrate.
Both THG & flexwatt tape reach high temps (~120F+). They’re also cheaper, longer lasting, and more reliable than what you’ll find at pet stores. Too, this stuff is way more convenient where re-usability is concerned so if you’re planning on expanding your collection in the future it’s definitely a better way to go. Compare a strip of 12” THG (under $10 assembled) that’s been used on more than one quarantine tub since it’s been here:
To a few of the old zoo meds ($30+ a pop for mediums) I bought in my first year of keeping. These pads were expensive, they don’t seem to heat as thoroughly, and they get gross if you use the adhesive. They’re technically not made to be used more than once. They’re sold as a ‘permanent’ heat source, and removing them from the bottom of an enclosure can ruin them (although there are ways around that and they come off tubs with less effort and no chemicals, you just have to be careful). They’re basically an easily compromised heat source made to keep you coming back to buy more.
Anyway, back to thermostats.
Hydrofarms are low cost, reliable thermostats that work well running singular UTH heat sources (heat tape, heat pads, whatever you’ve got). They are great for quarantine tubs, although I would not recommend them for running entire racks or RHPs.
If you’d rather look into higher quality herp thermostats now, I would recommend herpstats or the Vivarium Electronics models. The former has a ton of options depending on what version(s) you buy, and works fantastically on pretty much everything. The latter I’ve no experience with but I know several boa breeders who use them (and they’re stackable, which is awesome).
And then, if you want to double/triple check your temps, you can grab a temp gun and/or digital thermometers.
Hope that helps!
Calling her Rotem for she is an angry beast, but she is calm.
Picked this girl up today. Weighing in at 26 grams, she’s been one of those snakes I’ve been dying to get my hands on. A baby female CBB white lipped python!!
Already she is so amazingly curious. Not so afraid as wanting to investigate things. She was bolder than her other siblings available, I’m glad I chose her. :)
AHHH you got one! Congrats! ALL THE PICS!
Slim Jim was given to us today (after the show) by a friend that is also licensed for Burmese Pythons. He rescued Slim and one other normal Burmese Python who was in pretty much the same terrible condition. The person who had Slim and the other Burm was the definition of scum. He flat out stated that he did not feed, clean or handle these animals for 8 months. Our friend kept the other Burm for now, but that one may also come to us. Hope for the best for Slim and the other Burm, it’s going to be a long road.
Slim has passed away.
I’m so sorry, Super. At least he spent his last day in you guys’ loving care, and not in the place he’d been kept so poorly.
We have an official pip!! Welcome to the world tiny baby!
I’m just stunned.
I lost a childhood friend to viral pneumonia in the middle of this week.
And now tonight, someone I considered a close member of my boa family.
Thank you Joe, for all the conversations, the day to day banter, for everything you taught me, and for all the little secrets you let me in on. Thank you so much for supporting me when I was an inexperienced keeper just starting out, and for all the words of encouragement. They meant more than you’ll ever know. Rest in peace buddy, you will be greatly missed.
I love the color on this little normal BCI girl. I am glad we decided to keep her.